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CommentRe:Accuracy of early announcements.. (Score 1)210

Also, it was the E1, not the F1. The F1 didn't fire until years later.

I was talking about the F-1 though, not the E-1, since that's what Saturn V used.

When they built the Saturn V, they essentially picked an "off the shelf" engine

...and there it is. You can't compare the two timelines if one of them contains things the other one doesn't. Especially if you consider that Raptor has *already* undergone two major redesigns since 2016. In light of the fact that engines like F-1, RS-25 received *zero* major redesigns (RS-25 in decades, in fact), it's pretty hard to argue that SpaceX's timelines for development aren't vastly shorter than their competitors'.

So, I'm still pretty convinced that SpaceX has no magic sauce that lets them do things faster than traditional rocket companies.

I have no idea how you can say this with straight face if you look at what Blue Origin, ULA, and Arianespace have been doing for the past 15 years.

CommentRe:Accuracy of early announcements.. (Score 2)210

Trouble is, if you look at Starship, they've been developing it for 12 years already.

The Saturn V development process started in 1961.

By your own standards, you're being hypocritical here. Test firings of the F-1 engine used on Saturn V started in 1957. Test firings of Raptor 1 started in 2016. By what logic do you justify the "the start of Saturn V's development process" POST-dating its own engine's test firing by 4 years but the Starship's one PRE-dating the first test firing by 4 years?

CommentRe:oh good.... (Score 2)103

STS had *many* "perfect landings". Still was a deathtrap, so your single "perfect landing" isn't the argument you seem to think it is. And as for your comparison, the developmental prototypes currently tested by SpaceX have no people on board. That's why sane people aren't anywhere as concerned about them as they are with Starliner, which was supposed to be already fully operational and problem-free.

CommentRe:shine baby shine (Score 1)103

backslashdot's comment is absolute bullshit even without any automation. In my country you can have a complete domestic rooftop solar system for several thousand dollars, and he claims it takes that amount of money just to install a SINGLE panel on the ground? That's a shocking amount of innumeracy.

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